What did Maggie intend for Adam to do then? ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. This was the first lesbian recurring character on a major network. [13], Lindsey then initiated the next stage of his plan, making Spike corporeal again through a package sent to Spike at Wolfram & Hart. "Carmikl" wrote in message. Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy.Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their . He said that she was a scientist, and that she was going to be doing research and eventually, she might hatch an evil plot, but her front was being a psychology teacher. Time operated in a loop; each day, after waking up and sharing a normal day with his "family," he had his heart cut out by a The Wrath, a demon in the house's basement. > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> Usenet posting). It may not display this or other websites correctly. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. The demon however, worked against them by causing a distraction with Angel so Anne could show a tape, suspected to have incriminating evidence against them. While Nike promotes gender equality in its ads, their sponsored athletes say they risk losing pay if they become pregnant. Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. 1999 . His intent was for Willow to be Season Six's Big Badand whoever her love was at the time would have to be sacrificed to push herover the edge. 2. One fan said: "I didnt like Riley Finn when he first became Buffy's boyfriend but by the time he left I was really sad. Walsh initially thinks that Buffy can be a useful ally to the Initiative, but soon takes a dislike to her unpredictability and unwelcome curiosity, especially with regards to the "314 Project". The most complicated situation for her is having Riley fall in love with Buffy. "Quitting is not the same as giving up": Lindsay Crouse and Kirby Ferguson make the case for leaving a job, relationship or hobby. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine) and Russel Crouse, a playwright. You can unsubscribe at any time. Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their cause, that he will be stripped of his position at Wolfram & Hart, leaving a power vacuum which Lindsey could fill, gaining a measure of revenge on Angel. ", Christian Kane has said that he considered Lindsey to be driven in his hate for Angel during season 5 over losing Darla to him: "Even though I'm in love with Eve, Darla was a true love. I do wish I was a little more seasoned and mature at the time to realise how good it was. She's like a President. [20] Crouse has spoken on the relevance of Buddhism in the modern world: .mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 40px}.mw-parser-output .templatequote .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;padding-left:1.6em;margin-top:0}, "[Buddhism] is not an exclusive club. Meet Lindsay Crouse. Werewolves> and silver bullets could be another false thing. Express. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. She was born in New York City on 1948-05-12. Especially since he's been in the show from almostthe start. (Unless someone tells them to, but thatwould just be silly and pointless. Used automotive wheel weights make great inexpensive bullets forplinking, and I can control how heavy a powder charge I want as well. the exact opposite of this paragraph. > And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone> Ranger complex. It seems that a lot of the problems that Buffy has had in previous seasons were the results of actors bailing out in mid-production. the > exact opposite of this paragraph.> > Does anybody have definitive info?> > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a > Usenet posting). The two agreed to fight the upcoming battle together and, at the end, resolve their differences, maybe even allowing Lindsey to take a powerful position at Wolfram & Hart as "the devil [they knew]. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. He also became the love interest of the titular character, Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar), and they were in a long term relationship. Both of . Beating him down with his bare hands while apologizing for the fact Darla didn't love him and that he made the right choices, Angel used the sledgehammer to smash Lindsey's prosthetic hand, noting that Lindsey should be grateful he recently had an epiphany, as Angel could have easily destroyed Lindsey's remaining real hand instead. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Upon discovering this, Lindsey sent several top private investigators to find out who the intruder was. Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. I remember one early episode where Walsh was shown watching Buffy and Riley in bed together, and thought at the time that, if she were somehow sexually obsessed with Riley, she might have used Initiative resources, including other chipped demons and vampires, to take Buffy out of the picture, probably beginning when she sent Buffy out alone with the defective weapon against the demon. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. Failing in that, he gave information about Angel to police officer Kate Lockley, whose father had been recently killed by vampires, putting her in a vendetta against Angel. ESPECIALLY if he had returned from controlling hiswerewolf self and got back with Willow (excluding any messy Taraentanglements), then they were totally happyand THEN Oz got shot atthe end of Season 6. "It's always hard to be directed by someone who's close to you," Crouse says. If you've been paying any attention to running news (or just big headlines in general) then you are already familiar with Lindsay's work. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. We thought it would create> > some Shakespearean jealousy, and. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Although his deception is exposed and the Cup revealed to be a fake, Lindsey's plans were nevertheless served as Angel begins to doubt himself after losing to Spike. Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. Riley was also the only character to have been accepted as part of the group by Buffy's male friend, Xander Harris (Nicholas Brendon). DON'T MISSBuffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? [citationneeded], Lindsey and Eve contrive a situation where Spike saves Angel from a demonic parasite (placed on an unconscious Angel by Eve), which simultaneously disheartened Angel, galvanized Spike, and adds weight and veracity to the claims made by "Doyle"/Lindsey. [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). And ya know what, if Michelle Trachtenbergleft in the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. was not that big if a surprise. 1. Vampires were more primeval and didn't get emotionally involved withpeople or other vampires for that matter, There are more differences but I have forgotten the rest :-). This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. He starred in a total of 31 episodes, and his character, Riley Finn, was first introduced in the season four premiere. Blucas, now 48, joined the cast of Buffy in 1999 and this was his first major TV role, with the show acting as a springboard to a long-running TV and film career. A good guy. Lindsay Crouse ( @lindsaycrouse) is a writer and producer in Opinion. Gellar has stated she believes Whedon's original intention was "was to put Xander and Buffy together. [citationneeded], Though rivals at heart, Lindsey and Lilah were also forced to also work together. [13] In 2021, she appeared in a limited engagement of Mornings at Seven at Broadway's Theatre at St. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. You never will be.Lorne to Lindsey, Unlike most of Wolfram & Hart's other employees, Lindsey was not entirely devoid of a moral conscience. Oh my god, how lame is that?-------------------------------------------------------------------------, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti, On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:16:49 -0400, Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\) <, I had thought there'd be more Walsh in S4Too bad, LC missed a real chance to. Lindsey was eager to have Angel sire Darla, thus saving her. Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. Touched by an Angel. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. However, I just listened to her interview at the Buffering podcast and nothing of that sort came up. Riley was different from Buffy's other love interests, is he was the only one who could offer her a slice of normality. Hmm interesting hope someone has info on this? At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told isfalse: several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do notexist. "Once you get your driver's license, you end your film career," says Crouse. Find where to watch Lindsay Crouse's latest movies and tv shows . Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. She really would like to fashion the world in her image. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> > taser by a then unknown assailant? Nevertheless, a new contract required her to kill the Holy Triumvirate, formed by three innocent children. Older ones could control rodents7. When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Although if you bring up Jenny Calendar I'm still bitter aboutthem killing her off! > > > then we went, ehhh, forget it. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. "[3], Months later, Lindsey then worked with fellow lawyers Lilah Morgan and Lee Mercer, both having had previous plans ruined by Angel, to have him killed. Their last collaboration was Mr. President in 1962. -- Jukka.@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela), The answer to all questions starting with those four words is "Yes.". Gellar has stated she believes Whedon's original intention was "was to put Xander and Buffy together. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Crouse is a Buddhist. Emmy Award-winning Sarah Michelle Gellar was born on April 14, 1977 in New York City, the daughter of Rosellen (Greenfield), who taught at a nursery school, and Arthur Gellar, who worked in the garment industry. [5], Lindsey represented Vanessa Brewer, a deadly assassin posing as a blind woman. Hoping that his performance would pick up again with the return of his hand, Lindsey's superiors arranged for him to receive a mystical transplant. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. Finding out that Buffy is the Slayer is a kind of a gas, and it's nervous-making and exciting to have good people on her team; she's like a president - she wants a great cabinet underneath her. Lindsay Crouse ( @lindsaycrouse) is a writer and producer in Opinion. "[4], Crouse outlined her view of Maggie's relationships with Riley and Buffy, "Her teaching assistant Riley is really the child she never had, and there's probably confusion there that he's a potential something for her that's slightly out of her reach, but she's willing to prevent anyone else from being interested in him. Since Buffy is meant to be the central character surely thedrama should focus on a her rather than Riley. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Vampires could shapeshift into bats, wolfs and even smoke4. More info. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. Buffy The Vampire Slayer is a classic supernatural series which has returned to All 4. --from a usenet discussion. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered. [18], During the Fall of Los Angeles, the Senior Partners discussed with Wesley the possibility of replacing him with a "zombified McDonald" or Eve as their liaison to Angel. She was striving so hard to understand what life was about. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Also, a rather different story since the focuswould have been on that personal aspect as well as thepolitical/military one. Any more word on this? I've been expecting Tara to leave or>be off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLY>goneright? But to be honest, i think her story played out the way it should have been. riiighhht?). > In article , Tim McGaughy> wrote:>>in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at>>dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:>>> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what>>> they were made of.>>>>And why would he make his own bullets, then?>>>>> And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone Ranger complex.>>>>Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can>>only be killed by a silver bullet.> > That doesn't mean that the legends are true. Willow was well along the path to spell casting before she met Tara. Not that I want to see Oz shot or anythingbutit would have had more impact. "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" Professor Maggie Walsh is introduced in Season Four, as Buffy's Psychology professor at the University of California, Sunnydale, but is later revealed as the leader of the government-controlled Initiative, a military project intent on capturing, studying, and modifying the behavior of various demons. Not according to Joss. You must log in or register to reply here. And there> > > would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his> > own show. Is it true that Maggie Walsh was the original planned season 4 Big Bad? The trailblazing basketball player died last month at age 66. You don't AngelLindsey's last words, Lindsey and Angel allied once more in an effort to stop the Circle. I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? > Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, Car@rcn.com wrote in article> <3D075A59@rcn.com> > > From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti> > Noxon:> > >. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Since leaving Buffy, he went on to star in Knight & Day, Operation Christmas and Underground. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? I mean, it's the year 2000 people, we almost thought the world was going to end because computers couldn't cope with the millennium bug and the Big Bad is a mutant hybrid demon with a built-in dial-up modem. The set up for the final battle between Buffy and Adam occured in episode 14. ", Another fan said: "Always loved Riley (re-watching Buffy just now) and it turns out the actor is as sincere and lovable as the character he played. An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. Marc Blucas: The actor's first big role was in Buffy, Marc Blucas: Marc Blucas played Riley Finn. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditionalstandards. Too bad. [2][3] Lindsay Ann Crouse's full name is an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing partnership of Lindsay and Crouse, which consisted of her father and his writing partner, Howard Lindsay. Crouse has appeared in featured and guest roles in a number of television series. I couldn't let that slide.Lindsey McDonald, Two years later, Lindsey finally returned to Los Angeles, when he learned that Angel has taken over the Los Angeles division of Wolfram & Hart. > > > > This is the first time I've ever heard this. This is USENET! The Initiative is her baby. Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what theywere made of. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. "You can't stop and recite something," says Crouse. An interesting thing about Joss is he's not very diplomatic, I like that about him. If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the bedroom floor in "Seeing Red". [16] John Lahr writes in his book Show and Tell: New Yorker Profiles that when Mamet married Crouse in 1977, he "married into show business aristocracy". The character is portrayed by Lindsay Crouse. And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a LoneRanger complex. Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. Cookie Notice Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. [1], He then aided in the resurrection of Angel's old lover, Darla by taking over chanting during the ritual to bring her back when the demon Vocah; who was originally performing the ritual; was distracted when Angel attacked him. As opposed to just sort of misguided."[6]. There were other indications that an> unknown force was at work in and around U.C. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [EXPLAINER]. Claiming to receive visions from the Powers That Be, he gained Spike's cooperation and trust. It is a series with humble beginnings (the movie, starring Kristy Swanson, was a minor cult . But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. When informed by Eve that Spike had failed, Lindsey activated the Senior Partners' program meant to kill Angel if he turned against them. Vampires could not set foot in a church or look upon a holy relic6. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with the latest celebrity news, but don't worry we have you covered. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >. After Angel left, Lindsey informed the firm that there was "a new player in town. Everybody."[8]. Eliza Dushku, who played the rogue slayer Faith Lehane, was not represented at all. Clements.[14]. This allowed her to commit murder and get away due to her supposed disability. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the first episode. Returning to his apartment, Lindsey found that Darla had left town, taking all her clothes with her. I disagree. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. After figuring out that his hand wasn't evil but rather suicidal, Lindsey pulled the plug on his friend and destroyed the facility, while saving those that could still be saved. Various creatures captured by the Initiative were dissected to provide the parts for Adam. If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. "It was an amazing first job as they were such a nice group of people, they were extremely patient with me. Lahr also writes that Mamet got his first screenwriting assignment through Crouse. Putting him in a crisis of conscience, Lindsay teamed up with Angel to save the children and allow him to leave Wolfram & Hart scot-free. Crouse's essay has now racked up more than 3 million page views. "[3], Crouse gave some insight into her view on her character, "She's such an extremist. "A Master in the Art of the Con. A flunky?! Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. He was eventually rescued by Angel, Spike, and Charles Gunn for information they need. I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. Fans are keen to know why actor Blucas left the cast of Buffy, and Express.co.uk has investigated. It wasn't a big deal to lose Lindsay Crouse a whole 9episodes earlier than planned. I have always imagined that Maggie treats people like grown-ups. She said that she was rather> surprised and disappointed uponhearing abou ther character's death.> > > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> > Usenet posting)> > Hey, you could check the guide for yourself>. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. However as his character grew in complexity, they started to appreciate his role in the series and said they were sad to see him leave. [FAN DISCUSSION]Buffy: Why does Sarah Michelle Gellar not want to return for reboot? Since he wouldn't do it, Lindsey stormed into her hotel with armed men, with Lindsey personally having Angel tasered and forcing him to watch as Drusilla entered the room and re-sired Darla. (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still has>>> scratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, so>>> he can't heal too fast. > >> > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. I've been expecting Tara to leave orbe off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLYgoneright? Kills me! The pair fought on a rising container that held the creature, while Cordelia tried to stop the process. Crouse was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role in the 1984 movie Places in the Heart. [1][2], I guess it's fair to say you've never seen anything like real poverty. She was just in the way of his goal and so she had to be eliminated- and I think that cold, emotionless demon is always more unnerving than any other. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. But it's not just the physical betrayal that rattles Allenby. Though Angel saw Lindsey off, he managed to get one last crack at him by taping a sign reading "Cops Suck" on the back of his truck. And so, damn it, I'm going to drink the rest of that water. READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Charisma Carpenter is a 50-year-old American actress who played the role of Cordelia Chase in Buffy The Vampire Slayer for the first three seasons, and the series is now on All4.The star is also . Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. [1], After saving the three children, Lindsey returned to Holland, returning the disks and admitting to what he did. And why would he make his own bullets, then? 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